Hi, I'm Stage in Stages, Lynn Manuel Miranda, and you're listening to The Hamelcast.

Boots and cuts and Boots and cuts.

Hi, everyone. Welcome back to the Hamelcast. I can't believe it. I am here with my friend, three-time Tony nominee, Jennifer Samard. Woo-hoo! I know her. She's trouble. She is trouble with a capital T. Good. That's why we're here. That's why we're pals. Hi. I'm so happy to see you. I'm happy to see you. You look stunning. You look stunning. You always look stunning.

You do. Before we do anything, can you just tell the listeners your pronouns, please? Yes, hello. Hi, listeners. I'm Jennifer, and my pronouns are she, her, hers. TikTok is going to go crazy, even though we're not doing video. They love you. So I'm so exciting.

You know, and part of you, Gillian, for those of you who don't know, why would you?

Because it was just the two of us for a few moments. I had a vague memory that this wasn't recorded, but just in case, Mommy had to put on some eye shadow.

Sure. Just, just in case. You look stunning. Thank you. Welcome to the podcast. If you don't know Jennifer Samard, or if you only know Jennifer Samard from TikTok, which is a whole new.

Right. But you're viral. Like you have this whole persona. It's not a persona. It's you. But like people are learning about you through your virality.

Yeah. You know, I had joined TikTok, I think during the pandemic, I kind of went in kicking and screaming, because if I just have one more, well, I think you and I have discussed this, Jillian. I, I think as a born Leo, as a child, I was extroverted, but as my life continued and I grew, I actually became much more introverted. And now like any actor, I know how to be an ambivert,

you know? But all this is to say, I went kicking and screaming into TikTok because I thought,

if I have to do one more outward thing, I'm going to cry. But I, so I joined. I thought maybe one day,

so I'm glad I kept the handle because little did I know that that gunshot hole in the dress moment would go so viral. If you don't know, I'm talking about the, that was rude. That was pretty effing rude.

You can curate. This is your show. You can say whatever you're. Oh, pretty. That is pretty fucking rude. And some people I've seen on social media now didn't know when they came to see our show that it originated at Death Becomes Her. They had no idea. So it's so funny. It keeps on going. So I just thought, well, I'll finally join the land of the living now that I'm forced to. And I've had some fun, actually. I've had some fun with it. I'm so glad you've had some fun. Yeah.

So, yeah, if you don't know Jennifer Smart disaster company, the gender swapped revival, death becomes her currently, the Putnam County Spelling Bee, Shrek, Sister Act, so many things. Law & Order SVU. Yeah. Girls 5Eva. The Flintstones, Viva, Viva, Rock Vegas. Golden Girls Deep Dive our friend, Patrick Hines, who I do TCO with.

How fun. So fun. We do laugh, that's for sure. I mean, how could you not? Oh, my God, those girls. I feel like I live on the Lanai, and I said it. Saying the Lanai is one of the biggest challenges I've ever had to overcome. but we always speak of you with great reverence and love and also how beautiful you are.

Back atcha, where to, are we... biggest challenges I've ever had to overcome. But we always speak of you with great reverence and love

and also how beautiful you are. Back atcha, are we talking, we're having the same podcast. The same conversation. Yeah. Basically, I'm always dressed like this on the podcast, at least for the summer, where I'm in a strapless situation. I always look naked as I do right now. And, And there it is. But yeah, I'm having such a good time. I think when I

grow up, I think I'd rather just podcasts for a living and I don't have to. I just really love it.

And even though I do have makeup on, you know, you don't have to necessarily, you know, like you do.

It used to be back in 2016, you could like sit on your living room floor and not give a shit. And now like everyone's moving to YouTube and now there's TikToks and social media managers making videos. That's right. You all just move to YouTube. I have to go check it out. I have not done it yet. Yeah. Because you know I'm a big, I'm a big fan of true crime obsessed. And it's just, I got to go, I got to go look at you, not just listen.

Well, you also did killing it on Broadway with Jessica Vosk. You had a true crime Broadway podcast.

Yeah, during the pandemic, I think we were all starved for creativity, or at least us creative types needed an outlet.

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