From Relay FM, this is Upgrade episode of 487 for November 20th, 20th.

My name is Mike Hurley.

I'm joined by Jason Snow, but I'll introduce him in a moment because first I must thank

Fitbod, Electric, Text Expander, and vitally for their support of this episode.

Hello, Jason.

That was a weird intro, wasn't it?

Sometimes you get ahead of yourself, you know, and you're just, you know, I often refer to this a lot in business and life.

You're familiar with the Wallace and Gromit meme where Grumet is put in the tracks down when he's on the train.

You've probably seen this meme, right? So he's like laying him down.

Sometimes when I'm recording a show that's what it's like. Like I'm just saying I don't know what I'm going to say I don't know if that there is that much thought in my brain before I say it but I'm just talking and that's sometimes where I end up with

I have a

stop question for you. Comes from Jason, another one, called

what kind of uniform does Jason wear for curling?

Oh, I know, there's, I don't wear a uniform.

There's no team jersey?

I... No. No.

No.

Okay.

I don't have anything like that. The club does have like jackets that you can get that I mean I am getting one of those

See see there's a uniform as a club jacket. It's not a uniform some people get them and they keep them warm and they wear them sometimes, but it's not a uniform.

No, the key things you have to know about clothing for curling is you can't, you need to wear something that sort of works with ice, so like blue jeans are not good for that.

And so I wear some of those you know those Mack Weldon sweat pants that you like Mike the

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