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Irving Finkel is a scholar of ancient languages and a longtime curator at the British Museum, renowned for his expertise in Mesopotamian history and cuneiform writing. He specializes in reading and interpreting cuneiform inscriptions, including tablets from Sumerian, Akkadian, Babylonian, and Assyrian contexts. He became widely known for studying a tablet with a Mesopotamian flood story that predates the biblical Noah narrative, which he presented in his book “The Ark Before Noah” and in a documentary that involved building a circular ark based on the tablet’s technical instructions.
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OUTLINE:
(00:00) – Introduction
(00:43) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections
(09:53) – Origins of human language
(15:59) – Cuneiform
(23:12) – Controversial theory about Göbekli Tepe
(34:23) – How to write and speak Cuneiform
(39:42) – Primitive human language
(41:26) – Development of writing systems
(42:20) – Decipherment of Cuneiform
(54:51) – Limits of language
(59:51) – Art of translation
(1:05:01) – Gods
(1:10:25) – Ghosts
(1:20:13) – Ancient flood stories
(1:30:21) – Noah’s Ark
(1:41:44) – The Royal Game of Ur
(1:54:43) – British Museum
(2:02:08) – Evolution of human civilization
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| 0:00.0 | The following is a conversation with Irving Finkel, who is a scholar of ancient languages |
| 0:04.8 | curator at the British Museum for over 45 years and is a much admired and respected world |
| 0:12.5 | expert on cuneiform script, and more generally on ancient languages of Sumerian, Acadian, and |
| 0:19.3 | Babylonian. And also on ancient board games and Mesopotamian magic, |
| 0:26.1 | medicine, literature, and culture. I should also mention that both on and off the mic, Irving was a |
| 0:32.9 | super kind and fun person to talk to, with an infectious enthusiasm for ancient history that, of course, |
| 0:38.8 | I already love, but fell in love with even more. |
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