#483 - Dr Joanna Williams - Has Woke Taken Over Everything?
Modern Wisdom
Chris Williamson
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🗓️ 6 June 2022
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
Dr Joanna Williams is the Founder of Cieo, associate editor of Spiked and an author.
The last few years has seen progressive ideas capture institutions, academics and headlines. But how much has this ideology actually trickled down to making a real impact in the world? Is it just a moral panic about a moral panic or is there something to really be concerned about?
Expect to learn why police officers are being told to actively refer to themselves as woke, how 3 month old babies can be racist, why air conditioning is a tool of the patriarchy, whether the people pushing these narratives actually believe this stuff, what the future of progressive messaging has in store and much more...
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| 0:00.0 | Hello friends, welcome back to the show. My guest today is Dr. Joanna Williams. She's a founder of CO, |
| 0:07.3 | Associate Editor of Spiked, a Senior Lecturer at the University of Kent, and an author. |
| 0:13.1 | The last few years have seen progressive ideas capture institutions, academics, and headlines. |
| 0:18.8 | But how much has this ideology actually trickled down to making an impact in the real world? |
| 0:24.6 | Is it just a moral panic about a moral panic, or is there something to actually be concerned about? |
| 0:30.3 | Expect to learn why police officers are being told to actively refer to themselves as woke. |
| 0:35.8 | How three-month-old babies can be racist. Why air conditioning is a tool of the patriarchy? |
| 0:41.5 | Whether the people pushing these narratives actually believe this stuff, |
| 0:45.2 | what the future of progressive messaging has in store, and much more. |
| 0:50.2 | I'm quite hesitant around the whole woke is taking over everything and they're coming for the |
| 0:56.4 | real world narrative. I simply haven't seen this make much impact day-to-day in front of my |
| 1:04.0 | own eyes. It seems to be a very sort of abstract headline grabbing, libs of TikTok type internet |
| 1:11.1 | phenomenon, which doesn't seem to have many real world implications. But maybe this is just a |
| 1:15.3 | slow march. Maybe there is something for us to be worried about, and I really enjoyed kind of |
| 1:19.1 | getting into the weeds with Joanna today and pushing back against some of the proposals that she |
| 1:22.8 | had, and then hearing what she had to say about some of my criticisms as well. Also, she's from |
| 1:28.8 | Stutton, Antis. She went to the same college as me in the northeast of England. So we've got |
| 1:32.6 | that affinity in common as well. Speaking of the northeast of England, I'm still here. |
| 1:38.0 | I am still in the UK for another couple of days, and then I'm back to Austin this Wednesday. |
| 1:43.2 | If you are in Austin, this Thursday, me and Rob Henderson are going to do a meet-up at Cosmic |
| 1:48.4 | Coffee on South Congress. We're going to be there 6.30pm until 9.30pm. It's totally free. It's just |
| 1:53.8 | some friends and some people that might want to catch up with us and have a chat. We're going to |
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