I think I can trace some of our first arguments back to our disagreements around what I would call

personality tests or, you know, what do people call these things? You know, strength finders,

Myers, Briggs, like the Colby Index, disc, you know, the Enneagram, right? But what are these all considered personality tests?

I think some are. I think some were considered like how you work. So growing up in my family,

I would have thought initially like women were always the ones talking about the enneagram.

We're talking about, you know, like phlegmatic sanguine.

I don't know what those like four types were.

And I think it's because we like to talk about ourselves.

I don't think just women like to talk about themselves, but they just talk more.

And I think people like to talk about themselves.

So that's kind of why these tests spread like wildfire.

But even though I would say that maybe stereotypically women-like personality-type tests more,

I've seen that kind of be proven wrong with my dad in his business sphere,

because with the Colby Index and disk and what was the other one you mentioned,

Strengths Finder, and there's more um it they're kind of

more tests that aren't personality but like how you work or again like your strengths or things

like that and um we grew up like speaking everything was a test like we were very into that in my family, boys and girls.

Or maybe like my dad, myself.

Yeah, and beyond the particular tests that I think brought up various controversies between

you and I, I think that, I think titles were something that I always kind of bristled against,

right, being put in a box. And so even things like extrovert, introvert. think that I think titles were something that I always kind of bristled against, right?

Being put in a box. And so even things like extrovert, introvert, even the things as basic

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