Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Hey everyone, today I want to talk about the 90s.

I'm not going to talk about Pogs or Nickelodeon cartoons, but I do want to talk about a book that

was instrumental in changing the national conversation on LGBT issues.

A book whose tactics are still used today by those who defend LGBT ideology and what

we can learn from it.

Frankly, as Catholics and as Christians, we want to capture hearts and minds.

You can't just have good arguments.

Good arguments are very, very helpful, but there's a certain approach that one must take

in putting forward controversial ideas.

So I find this book fascinating just to learn from that, but also as a student of history

to find out what happened.

So what is the book I want to talk about?

I have it right here.

It's called After the Ball.

So After the Ball, How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90s by Marshall

Kirk and Hunter Madsen.

So the book came out, I think, like 1988, 1989.

And Kirk and Madsen are part of the LGBT movement and they're part of least defending it.

And they argue in this book, they say, look, the LGBT so-called civil rights movement

has been going at things the wrong way.

And we need to change the approach if we're going to change public opinion on this issue.

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