This is the Baymaw podcast with Marty Solomon.

I'm his co-host, Brent Billings.

Today, we continue our analysis of season five of The Chosen with the discussion of the seventh and penultimate episode.

Penultimate.

Now that you've told me what that means.

I like to throw it in there. I love it. That's good. It's a great word. People should use it more often. Absolutely. Two more episodes in this season, which feel like they just go together. It's almost like a two-parter of a one episode to me. But, well, yeah, no, they are literally titled that, the upper room part one and the upper room part two. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right. Totally. Okay. Yeah. Maybe that's why it feels that way. Your feeling is appropriate. I do have a couple of follow-up items, though. I went back and looked at season two episode five, which is when Z gets called. They didn't even call him Z back then.

They were calling him Simon.

So it took me a minute to find it in my notes because I just had him as Simon.

But he's looking pretty scruffy.

It's just wild to go back to those earlier episodes. It's like, oh, they actually, like they evolved their look quite a bit over the course of several seasons.

Yeah.

But Jesus and Z are discussing his brother Jesse and says something like not the last of the

trouble I intend to cause.

And Jesus says that and Jesus asks Z for his weapon.

He throws it into the water.

And then Z says, I love this line in retrospect. He says, without my dagger, why do you need

someone like me? Which is Judas's perspective now. Oh, wow. A lot of them have gone through this

thing where it's like, okay, I thought that I was like bringing this to the table. And if I'm not doing

that, then what am I doing here? So I loved that. Yeah. But then Z was like, well, if people find out what you're doing, they might try to stop you. And Jesus is like, well, what are you going to do about it? I guess we'll find out when that day comes. And then Atticus, who is looking crazy young, comes out after they leave. And he does pick up the dagger but then I was looking at

the I took some screenshots and was comparing the daggers and I don't even I don't think it's

the same prop it's similar but I don't think it's the same one so I just don't I don't know what to

think yeah and I yeah I you actually sent me some clips before we recorded here so I was able to go back and look at some of those screenshots and clips. And yeah, I'm with you. I don't know. Like when I go back and I watch the scene, I'm like, is it like a vision? Like, is there a literal knife sitting there? Or is it what Z's is he seeing it? Yeah yeah because why in the world would atticus carry that

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