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480. How Much Does Discrimination Hurt the Economy? (Replay)

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🗓️ 9 November 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Evidence from Nazi Germany and 1940’s America (and pretty much everywhere else) shows that discrimination is incredibly costly — to the victims, of course, but also the perpetrators. One modern solution is to invoke a diversity mandate. But new research shows that’s not necessarily the answer.

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There is a saying I've heard in many forms in many places over the years.

0:08.8

Maya Angelou used to say, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. There's another

0:15.4

version that goes like this. If there is a crowd in the street shouting that

0:20.0

they want to kill you, you should take them seriously.

0:24.1

There are parts of the world where crowds gather to shout death to the Jews.

0:29.6

We should believe them.

0:31.3

The latest evidence on October 7th, thousands of Hamas fighters having been

0:37.2

trained in Iran, financed by Hamas leadership in Qatar and positioned in Gaza crossed the Israeli border and

0:45.2

killed some 1400 Jews with a level of barbarism that hardly seems

0:50.6

believable in the 21st century.

0:53.0

The details are too grotesque to keep repeating.

0:57.7

One Hamas attacker phoned his mother from the site.

1:02.1

Your son killed Jews, he said.

1:04.2

Mom, your son is a hero.

1:08.0

They also kidnapped Jews, more than 200,

1:10.6

and took them back to Gaza.

1:12.2

They had apparently been promised a bounty of

1:15.0

$10,000 and an apartment for each Jew they kidnapped. Since that day, every

1:22.1

Israeli, every Jew in the world, has been forced into grief and at the same time

1:28.8

to reckon with an ancient reality. Anti-Semitism is one of the oldest and most lasting hatreds in the world.

1:38.0

It is far from the only hatred of its kind.

1:42.0

The economist Ed Glazer once wrote a paper called the

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