Hey, gang. Today, my guest is Dr. Robert Gorder. He earned his medical degree at the University of Amsterdam Medical School in 1973.

The same year, he completed specialty training in anthroposophical medicine.

Tongue twister. With an emphasis on oncology, Dr. Gorder was a University of California, San Francisco faculty member from

1986 to 2008, where he earned a Ph.D. from the University of Witten in Germany, where he continues

to serve as a faculty member. In the 80s, he was a physician and researcher on AIDS at San Francisco General Hospital and was a medical director of the Department of AIDS Epidemiology and Biostatistics.

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In 1993, he founded the European Institute for Oncological and Immunological Research.

In 2000, he founded the Medical Center, Cologne, it's in Germany, dedicated to treatment of cancer

using dendretic cell vaccinations and adult mesenchymal stem cells in combination with immune

supportive therapies and hyperthermia.

Correct.

Local and total body hypothermia.

That's right.

Local and total body. So Dr. Gorder has been

around a long time. He's seen a lot. And I'm so excited to talk to him. He's brilliant. And

we're going to talk about mistletoe. We're going to talk about dendritic cells. We're going to talk

about cannabinoids. And we're going to talk about hyperthermia and maybe a lot more.

So Dr. Gorder, it's an honor to spend this time with you.

Thanks for taking the time to do it.

It's my pleasure also.

So why don't we start with your journey as a physician because you started out conventionally

trained.

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