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My name is Mike Hurley and I am joined by Mr Jason Snell.

Hi Mike, how's it going?

I'm very well sir, how are you? I'm doing good. It's

Monday. Well it's Monday in listener time but we are recording this on Friday.

Yeah we're recording this early because I'm going on vacation next

week because that's the it is the season all all your favorite podcasts are being

recorded at weird times because people go on vacation with their families and

it's all you know it's that time a year so that's what's going

on we're recording this on Friday but it'll be out on Monday and then in fact our

following episode won't be released until a Tuesday because I, again, of my finishing up my travel.

So, you know, bear with us for the next couple of weeks as we, as we go through this travel time.

Yeah, it's just one of those things, I always get really nervous recording in advance,

especially when it's a topical show like this one,

because you never know what's going to happen between now and Monday

evening when the show goes out.

Yeah in fact we can you know we could ruin everything we could whatever we talk about

will be eclipsed that always happens.

I had that with, topical makes a difference though.

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