48. The Leak That Changed The World: Death of Privacy (Ep 6)

The Rest Is Classified

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🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Do we have any privacy in the modern era? Why did Snowden do the things he did? Was he successful? And what is the closest Gordon Corera ever came to being a spy? Listen as David McCloskey and Gordon Corera discuss the legacy of Edward Snowden. ------------------- To sign up to The Declassified Club, go to www.therestisclassified.com or click this ⁠link⁠. To sign up to the free newsletter, go to: ⁠https://mailchi.mp/goalhanger.com/tric-free-newsletter-sign-up⁠ ------------------- Order a signed edition of David's latest book, The Seventh Floor, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠via this link.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pre-order a signed edition of Gordon's latest book, The Spy in the Archive, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠via this link.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ------------------- Email: [email protected] Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@triclassified⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:37.1	The expected call from the British government finally came.
0:40.3	The cabinet secretary, the most powerful unelected figure in the machinery of state,
0:45.3	and the Prime Minister's closest official aid, would like to visit me.
0:48.3	He turned up in my office first thing on Friday the 21st of June.
0:51.3	The government was grateful for our responsible behavior so far, he said,
0:55.0	in tones of polite reasonableness. But enough was enough. British menace comes in many disguises.
1:00.8	On the surface, there was nothing intimidating about Jeremy Haywood, Quaker and Oxford educated
1:05.4	with a playful little tin-tin quiff of hair. But there was an edge of steel in his voice,
1:09.9	as he implied he was the nice guy,
1:11.6	and he wouldn't like me to meet his rough friends. A lot of people in government believe you
1:15.6	should be closed down, and that the Chinese are behind this. He pointed to the block of social
1:20.1	housing across the canal from my office. I wonder where our guys are, he possibly joked. Do you know
1:26.1	how many Chinese agents are on your staff? If we had some,
1:29.8	it would be nice to know. Well, welcome to the rest is classified. I'm David McCloskey. And I'm
1:34.5	Gordon Carrara. And that, dear listeners, was a quote not from Edward Snowden. Thank you, Gordon.
1:40.8	You've become generous as this series has aged. That is a quote from Alan
1:44.7	Russ Bridger, who is in 2013, the editor of the Guardian newspaper to our American listeners.
1:51.4	That's some version of the British New York Times, I guess, although I imagine there's many
1:55.7	other newspapers here who are going to review me poorly after I describe them that way.
2:00.6	And he is writing in his memoir
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