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All right welcome to episode 48 of I don't speak German,

the podcast about terrible people and the things that they say and believe.

Once again, my co-host Jack Graham is not going to be joining us because

coronavirus, people dealing with shit.

That's kind of the reality of the world. I'm Daniel, and if you don't

know me by now, then you probably haven't been listening to this podcast very long. Today, I'm doing

another kind of casual chat with someone that I've admired from afar for a while.

And this is Aina, aka Nice Mangos, who does the polite conversations podcast.

She is an ex-Muslim who grew up in Saudi Arabia and currently lives in Canada,

which I believe is a better place for her.

And we're going to be talking kind of generally about sort of new atheism and fascism and what it's like to be in this world today.

And Aina, thank you for coming on the podcast.

Thanks so much for having me on.

It's a pleasure.

Of course, you know, you've been around, at least in terms of your kind of public persona,

you've been around much longer than I have.

In fact, you interviewed Sam Harris in 2016, which I was relistening to some of that today.

And I guess, I guess I guess the place to begin maybe would be for you to introduce yourself to my audience who may or may not kind of be familiar with your work and kind of

tell us kind of where you are politically maybe. Okay so I'm I know I'm an ex-Muslim of Pakistani background, an illustrator, and I've written and

illustrated some children's books. Politically, I am, I guess,

an ex-new atheist if that says anything. So yeah like you know leaving religion and all of that it was

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