You know what? I just stepped out of what I know.

Right? See, see if you guys were residents, I would just lie like a dog, right?

You're going to put this on the internet and someone's going to be like,

that dark doesn't know what he's talking about.

Welcome back to the curbsiders. Hello, Matt. Hello, Stuart. Hi. Hi. I'm at my mom's house,

not not recording with you from the podcast for it, which is kind of sad. Yeah. No,

I'm at my own house. Now I'm in my childhood podcast for it, I guess you could say,

at my mom's house, but soon hopefully we'll be in a in a grown-up house. Paul, are you also here?

Yeah. No, that's sad in any number of ways, really, just no matter how you slice it.

And that's Dr. Paul Williams. This is kind of a weird intro because I don't think I introduce

what we do on the show, which is we use expert interviews to bring you clinical pearls and

practice changing knowledge. I actually like this new format of just starting with

abusing you and then talking about the topic. I feel like this is going to break out. I like it.

It's more natural. The audience, the audience will probably like it. I'm sorry that Dr.

Toph missed this because I'm sure he would have liked this too. We just finished an extensive

discussion on hypo-neutremia with Dr. Joel Toph. This is a topic that I find difficult as an

educator, how to explain it to trainees and and also yeah, teach it to students and residents.

And that's why we asked him on the show. If you haven't heard our previous episode was, I believe

number 31. It was an episode where we talked about diuretics. Dr. Joel Toph was was our guest on

that one. He is a medical educator best known as at kidney underscore boy on Twitter at kidney boy.

He is one of the creators of the Nephrology Journal Club and Neff Madness. He's also known for his

blog, precious bodily fluids, musings of a salt whisperer. He wrote a an excellent test book,

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