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Welcome to the Most notorious podcast on your atrivenous. Well it's been a while since we've talked 1930s gangsters. My favorite true crime topic in the whole world.

My guest today is Michael Wallace, a bestselling author, award-winning reporter, a historian, storyteller, and a biographer of the American West.

Among his many books are David Crockett, Lion of the West, Billy the Kid, the Endless Ride, and Route 66, the Mother Road 75th Anniversary Edition.

He also provides the voice of Sheriff in the Disney Pixar car series. Today we're going to be discussing his superb biography of 1930s Midwest Bank Robbing Gangster, Pretty Boy Floyd.

It's called Pretty Boy, the Life and Times of Charles Arthur Floyd. Mr. Michael Wallace, it's so great to have you here with me. Thank you.

Well, I'm delighted to be with you. I appreciate very much.

Let me start by asking you what draws you when you're writing and storytelling to the American West.

I think it's a matter of my roots. I was born at the end of World War II in the Old River City of St. Louis, the storied gateway to the West.

I just always looked West, literally and figuratively. I was very much stirred by the stories I encountered in that grand old city, really from the get-go.

And some of the stories came from members of my family, including my maternal grandmother, who as a young girl came to the United States from Germany in 1880s, she was about five years old.

And she had great yarns to tell me about being a little girl in Kansas City in 1881, when two of her brothers ran into the house with news that two days ago, New Mexico territory, somebody shot Billy the Kid Dead.

And then the next year, April of 1882, those boys ran into the house and said, guess what? Jesse James was just gunned down by the Ford brothers, the Pudstint Joe.

And she had all kinds of stories about those colorful days, just the right through the turn of the century up through World War I.

So it was a matter of geography. It was a matter of being born in Missouri, which we call the mother of the West, since so much of all the Western trails and traces, a lot of them started in Missouri, Pony Express, Santa Fe Trail, California Trail.

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