From Relay FM, this is Upgrade, episode 478 for September 25th, 2023.

This show is brought to you by Factor, Vitaly, and Ladda.

My name is Mike Curley, and I am joined by Jason Snow, hi, Jason Snow.

Mike, I am joining you from Across the Table, High Fives, Yay!

We are currently situated inside of the pod cabin, which is Stephen Hackett's studio.

We would like to extend our thanks to Stephen Hackett for providing his studio for Upgrade

to be recorded today.

He left, like he didn't want to disturb the, whatever, magic of whatever this is.

Well, the usual way that this magic begins is of a snow tall question, and Molly wants

to ask, Jason, while in Memphis, did you get to see the train that Stephen is so fond

of?

Stephen is, there's a train, right, in Memphis that makes...

There are lots of trains.

There are so many trains.

And they, Stephen told me yesterday there's lots of trains in Memphis because there aren't

many places where you have both river, air, and rail.

So like, Memphis is a cargo town, for sure.

Which is very funny, because Memphis, it's probably Y FedEx is here.

Well, or is FedEx the reason it's such a cargo town?

I think FedEx is the reason.

I bet it's the geography.

It's leading to FedEx, leading to everything else.

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