Welcome everybody. Today I am joined. We're going to do a very different format today, but I think you guys are going to love it. I have with me today Emily and Lindsay Stetzer. They are the co-founders of Presently, which is two sisters with lived experience, and they have OCD and anxiety,

and they offer tangible reminders using accessories and jewelry to help people stay grounded

in evidence-based CBT and mindfulness informed principles.

They are regularly recommended by therapists and mental health professionals.

They have gifted me with one beautiful bracelet and I love it. And again, I was just so thrilled and

excited about them that I wanted to get them on today to talk about how their OCD brain

tricked them and the tools that they wish they had been given sooner.

So they're actually kind of going to give you a masterclass today of their lived experience

and some practical skills-based practices that they have used to get them through

relapses and setbacks and recovery and all that.

So thank you for being here, Emily and Lindsay. Thank you for having us. Thanks for having us. Who would like to go, Lindsay or Emily,

who would like to go first in sharing your story of OCD and anxiety? Lindsay. You'll meet it first.

Okay. Chronologically, it makes sense for Lindsay go first.

Oh, okay.

All right.

So Lindsay is the eldest.

Great.

Lindsay, tell us about your story.

My OCD has changed and became a chameleon.

Like a lot of people know,

OCD, you know, changes through different forms and different types of OCD that can kind of come out. My OCD started at when I was probably at elementary school. I started noticing it with the, you know, the thoughts of if I don't line this up, something will happen to a family. Or if I don't turn the lights off, certain amount of times someone's going to die or it'll be

my responsibility that someone will die. So is that kind of OCD? I don't like saying they're basic,

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