#476: Two Former Boy Scouts Tell Us Their Stories | Part 2
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🗓️ 29 November 2023
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
We continue our interview with Dr. Doug Kennedy and Tom Krumins who share their experiences of being sexually abused and sexually assaulted by offenders in the Boy Scouts of America. They explain why, even in light of the recent successful lawsuits by past victims, the Scouts remain unsafe for children. Doug and Tom express what needs to change in order to make the organization safer.
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Trigger warning. Our episode contains descriptions of sexual assault that can be triggering. Please exercise caution when listening.
A little more about our guests:
Dr. Douglas Kennedy has been an educator, dedicated volunteer, consultant and focused upon the safety of youth for over three decades. Most recently he was chosen by the US Department of Justice to serve on the Tort Claimants Committee in the Boy Scouts of America’s bankruptcy proceedings and served as its Co-Chair for over three years. A Survivor of sexual abuse by the Director of the scout camp where he worked, Dr. Kennedy has been instrumental in communicating with Survivors, advocating for their interests, and has testified in bankruptcy court. He also played a significant role in negotiating an agreement for the improvement of Scouting policies related to youth protection.
Tom Krumins is a passionate Executive Director leading the movement for childhood sexual violence Prevention, Healing, and Justice at Keep Kids Safe. https://www.keepkidssafe.us
He is committed to advancing trauma-informed solutions through policy, education, and community mobilization. As a Survivor of childhood sexual violence within the Boy Scouts, Tom is uniquely positioned to understand the needs of Survivors and the importance of advocacy at the individual, organizational, and systemic levels. He uses his deep knowledge of the trauma Survivors face and the institutional barriers they encounter to educate, inform, and create change. Tom has shared his story and insights openly with national media outlets, international training programs, documentarians, and a newsletter series. He is currently spearheading legislative efforts to reform civil statutes of limitations for child sexual abuse in his home state of South Carolina.
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode is about child sex abuse and maybe triggering for some listeners. |
| 0:05.1 | Please exercise caution. |
| 0:08.1 | Hello, welcome welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired |
| 0:17.0 | FBI profile, a former New York City prosecutor and writer producer of Criminal Mind. |
| 0:20.6 | And what today is... |
| 0:21.8 | Laura Richards Criminal Behavioral analyst, |
| 0:25.0 | founder of Palladon National Stalking Advocacy Service, |
| 0:28.0 | and former New Scotland Yard and host of the podcast Crime Analysis. |
| 0:32.0 | And I'm Lisa Zambeddy, I'm the casting director for Seabas's Criminal Minds |
| 0:35.3 | and board member for Higher Survivors Hollywood. |
| 0:38.8 | And today we have two extremely special guests and they are. |
| 0:44.0 | Hi, my name is Doug Kennedy. |
| 0:46.0 | I am a professor in southeastern Virginia. |
| 0:50.7 | I am a survivor of child sexual abuse when I was with the Boy Scouts. |
| 0:56.7 | And most recently I served as the co-chair of the Tortayments Committee representing the 82,000 survivors in the Boy Scouts bankruptcy. |
| 1:08.4 | Hey everybody, I'm Tom Crumins. I am a public survivor advocate and taking on this work as my full-time effort |
| 1:17.7 | over the next few years serving as the executive director for a group called |
| 1:22.2 | the Keep Kids Safe Movement and |
| 1:23.9 | Movement of Survivors and Allies working together to address sexual |
| 1:28.5 | violence against children and adolescents here in the United States. I'm |
| 1:32.2 | also a survivor of an experience I had during my time |
| 1:36.5 | in the Boy Scouts of America |
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