From Relay FM, this is Upgrade Episode 476 for September 12, 2023.

Today's episode is brought to you by ExpressVPN and FitBud.

My name is Mike Hurley and I'm joined by a man who is just returned from the Steve Jobs

Theatre, Mr. Jason Snow. Hi, Jason.

Oh, more driving through San Francisco, more all of that. Hi, Mike. How are you?

Appreciate you getting in and out, in and out real fast so we can get our reactions and thoughts

and from you, some hands-on impressions from the iPhone event, iPhone slash Apple Watch event.

But we will start this episode, Jason, as we always do, with a snail talk question.

We had a number of listeners write in about this and I'm going to take this question from

above Ron and Chris who wanted to know, Jason, what sandwich did you have on your way home today?

Now I'm thinking there were two lineages for this question. One is that you referenced that you

would be having a sandwich before we recorded and then also going back to WDC where you were

unhappy with the sandwich options provided. Oh, that's true. I did notice, I went past the food

in the press area and it was also similarly kind of weird Apple food. But I appreciate the

Ukrainians who picked up my little note about having a sandwich on my way back here.

I do that. There's a sandwich place called Aladas. It's near where Dan Frakes lives,

don't be creepy. It's like a deli and it's really good and I go there and generally I get

the hot roast beef sandwich because it's really good and I eat it while I'm driving home. Yeah.

I had a hamburger, a beef burger, cheeseburger, not all of those. One of those, it was the cheeseburger.

Cheeseburger and fries, a dinner. Cheeseburger and fries, which are strange. You're a full of energy

now. I wouldn't say that, necessarily. Okay, top-boss 10 at night right now for me. I'm

driving a Coke Zero for a little bit because it's like zero buddies. In the fridge, I've got the

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