Hi there, thanks for listening to the Sister Circle Podcast.

My name is Crystal Evans Hurst and I'm your host.

Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the podcast that's designed to

help you live your life well and to make it a life you love. Listen, you get to choose. Hey there, if you are new here, you may not have heard my first conversation with Dr. Kurt Thompson, where we talked about shame.

I was so moved in that conversation not only marked by his technical academic

excellence the knowledge and the skill that he brings to the topic from a

clinical standpoint I was more so marked by the personal experience that he brings,

his own stories of healing from shame.

When you can marry the knowledge with the experience,

that is wisdom in the room.

Today, Dr. Kurt Thompson is with me to talk about the impact of suffering, the glory of

suffering, the benefits of suffering and how if you embrace those tough parts of

the journey and believe that suffering is a deep place that can

produce something, that it can produce hope that carries you with a different expectation through your life.

Then you've learned another skill.

And as usual, my conversation

was deep mentally challenging and emotionally healing.

If you find yourself in a place where you're suffering,

you owe it to yourself to listen to this conversation in full and if so

continually led to pick up that book the deepest place suffering in the

formation of hope from one girl who has lived long enough

to experience some suffering,

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