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Society & Culture, Documentary

4.532.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

In a conversation fresh from the Freakonomics Radio Network’s podcast laboratory, Michèle Flournoy (one of the highest-ranking women in Defense Department history) speaks with Cecil Haney (one of the U.S. Navy’s first Black four-star admirals) about nuclear deterrence, smart leadership, and how to do inclusion right.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there, Stephen Dubner.

0:05.4

Hope you've been having a great summer.

0:07.6

Today, I'd like to update you on what we've been doing this summer and to give you a preview

0:11.5

of the fall.

0:13.3

As you may know, Freakinomics Radio was our one and only podcast for a long time.

0:18.2

But last year, right in the teeth of the pandemic, we decided to create the Freakinomics Radio

0:23.8

network.

0:24.9

Our first spin-off show was called No Stupid Questions, which I co-host with Angela

0:29.6

Duckworth, a psychology professor at the University of Pennsylvania, who is incredibly dynamic

0:35.3

and insightful.

0:36.7

If you have not heard it yet, here's what No Stupid Questions sounds like.

0:42.0

We've talked actually, Stephen, about the spotlight effect, right?

0:46.2

Tom Gilevich.

0:47.2

Everybody's paying attention to what I'm doing.

0:49.7

Yes, and what I'm wearing and my hairstyle.

0:53.2

I just think we so often overestimate.

0:55.4

We get self-conscious and we get insecure.

0:58.2

And now with you, we actually do pay attention to all those things.

1:01.8

But with most people, we don't.

1:06.0

So that's No Stupid Questions.

1:07.7

The next show we launched was People I Mostly Admire.

1:11.2

The host of that show is my Freakinomics friend and co-author, Steve Levit, who is an

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