I want to hear from you what was the inspiration behind writing this particular book.

Like Lisa, did you know, oh my gosh, I've got a book in me and I don't know what the topic is or you're like, I have to write about confidence.

Tell me where this was born from.

Yeah, I had zero thoughts about writing a book.

I always admire you and Mel Robbins and just thought, oh my God, that's so amazing. I could never do that. It never even dawned on me to even approach writing a book. And I got the offer. So a literary agent reached out to Tom and said, hey, would Lisa be interested in writing a book? So my husband, it comes into my office and he's like, babe, can you believe it? Like, someone just said,

like, are you interested in writing a book? I'm like, oh, that's so sweet. Right. And I like, go back to typing. And he's like, babe, did you just hear what I said? Like, why are you being so nonchalant about it? And I turned around and I was like, well, who would buy a book from me? And in that moment, I didn't beat myself up.

I just gave myself

grace and I was like, oh, that young insecure Lisa is still here. Like, it's okay, Lisa. Like,

you know, you can believe in yourself and you've done it multiple times. So why now are you letting

this insecurity come to your top of mind? And I was like, I think, I don't think

she ever goes away. Yeah. And so when I started to think about what this book would be and what the problems are in the world and how I can provide, because you even just said like, you're not an expert. I think the same about myself. I'm like, I'm not a freaking expert. I'm figuring out as like Garalong right like your book figure out of book like it's so I just go I know I need to

keep moving forward but I'm figuring it out as I go along, right? Like your book, figure out of book. Like, it's so,

I just go, I know I need to keep moving forward. Now, I didn't have that mindset for eight years.

And for eight years, I was supporting my husband. I was a stay-at-home wife, really supporting

his dreams and what he wanted to do. And being brought up as a Greek Orthodox,

I thought that that was my role. I should be a good supportive wife and so I fit very nicely into it.

And so now looking back, I call it the purgatory, the mundane. Because so many of us hit rock bottom and

that's what makes us change. That's what brings us like, oh my God,

well, I've got nowhere else to go so I may as well go for this thing. But what about so many

of us that live in the purgatory or the mundane where our life isn't rock bottom? And that's

where I was for eight freaking years. And so radical confidence to me came about when I started to think

about what were the things that I did to get out of that. And everyone says to my God, you got so

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