If you feel stuck in real estate is probably not because you're lazy or undisciplined.

You might actually have the opposite problem. You're learning a lot, watching the videos, reading the books, running the numbers, and still not making any real progress. When that happens, the issue usually isn't knowledge. It's that you're trying to solve the wrong kind of problem. And that's why I wanted to talk with Kat Mulva Hill. Kat works with people who feel

stuck even though they're smart, capable, and doing all the right things.

If we haven't met yet, I'm Chad Carson, and on this show, I help investors use real estate to buy back their time.

Let's get started.

So, Kat, where I think I want to start is I'm thinking about all of the very smart people that I talk to in my audience who are engineers and doctors and every profession I can think of.

But they are smart people in their profession and they get into real estate and they're learning and learning and watching more videos.

They kind of get this feeling that they're spinning their wheels.

So I wanted to start with just for people like that, why does it sometimes feel like you're making progress when you're learning something when in reality you're really not?

Yeah.

I think this is a great question because when we are learning

something, it is really satisfying. And we are building this repertoire. And we're also often

thinking about all the possibilities of what I'm going to do with this. So when you're watching

YouTube videos or reading books, you're feeling inspired, you're feeling motivated, and you can

picture yourself taking action.

But what can happen is we start to almost pat ourselves on the back of thinking, oh, I've done so much.

But you haven't actually really started to execute or implement the things you've been learning.

And I think James Clear has a really great example in the book Atomic Habits around the difference

between being in motion and being

in action. And I like to think of it as a journey. So you are preparing for a trip. You want to

create a plan. You want to make sure you have the vehicle that you've checked the tire pressure.

You've got gas or battery, whatever you're using. And you haven't left the driveway. And I think it's

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