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Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness

472: [Formed.] Will You Kill Entitlement and Self-Pity? Kristene DiMarco Unpacks Rekindling Spiritual Hunger, The Danger in Numbing Boredom, Training Your Soul for Godliness, and Laying Down Your "Right" to Be Offended by Life

Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness

Christopher Cook

Mental Health, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness

4.9 • 528 Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

There's a reason your hunger fades when life gets busy and your soul gets loud: boredom becomes a shortcut to numbing, entitlement masquerades as discernment, and self-pity convinces you that endurance is optional. This week on Win Today, Bethel Music's Kristene DiMarco joins me to confront the quiet habits that starve spiritual hunger and to show us how to train the soul when worship feels flat, prayer drags, and offense stands in the doorway of growth. We talk about the discipline of boredom, the anatomy of hunger, why entitlement and self-pity atrophy endurance, and how to lay down your "right" to be offended by everything in life so true formation can continue. If you feel dulled by distraction, easily offended, or tired of mistaking relief for transformation, this conversation will call you back to the long road of love.

Guest Bio

Kristene DiMarco is a songwriter and worship leader with Bethel Music, known for penning and recording modern hymns and congregational anthems and for leading worship at churches and conferences around the world. Her albums and collaborations with Bethel Music and Jesus Culture have introduced a wide range of songs to the global church, and she continues to write and lead with a focus on honest lyrics, theological clarity, and resilient faith.

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0:00.0

The Art of Leadership Network.

0:03.0

This week on Wynn today.

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We're designed to do hard things.

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I know that sounds maybe crazy and people are like,

0:09.0

no, I don't want to do hard things,

0:11.0

but I realized in those moments of my life

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that I was designed for something to overcome.

0:17.0

I was designed to press in.

0:19.0

Why would I just be necessary during stressful days?

0:22.8

He is king.

0:24.2

Like he isn't going to settle for life coach because he's king.

0:29.0

Hey friends, welcome to the podcast.

0:30.6

We're continuing form today.

0:32.4

I'm so glad you're here.

0:33.6

Now, if you miss the first episode with Dr. Eric Mason, episode 471, go back and listen

0:38.8

sometime soon.

0:39.9

We're in the theme of training ourselves for godliness this year.

0:43.8

And if we're being honest, sometimes training isn't all that fun.

0:47.6

It can be monotonous.

0:49.5

It might even be boring at times.

0:52.0

But what I want to say is that if boredom has become the place where you reach

0:55.8

for numbing, you're not alone. What's important to know is that boredom can be a gym for your soul

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