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The Jordan Harbinger Show

471: Steven Hassan | The #iGotOut Guide to Quitting QAnon

The Jordan Harbinger Show

Jordan Harbinger

Education, Science, Business

4.812.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2021

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Steven Hassan (@CultExpert) has helped thousands of individuals and families recover from undue influence (authoritarian control). With over 40 years of experience, he is sought after as one of the foremost authorities on undue influence and controlling groups and individuals. He is the founder of the Freedom of Mind Resource Center, and a founding collaborator of the #iGotOut movement.

What We Discuss with Steven Hassan:
  • How a disinformation crusade like QAnon takes root and thrives in the politically polarized petri dish of modern America (with a little help from its outside adversaries).
  • Why the trope of non-human elites ritualistically sustaining themselves on the essence of innocent children should seem familiar -- because this blood libel has been most famously used to normalize the persecution of Jews from the Middle Ages to the Holocaust and beyond.
  • How QAnon appeals not only to the predictable dumber-than-a-box-of-rocks demographic, but a surprising number of seemingly otherwise intelligent people who are counterintuitively more susceptible to its influence than most.
  • How Steven’s BITE model applies to QAnon's manipulation of behavior, information, thought, and emotion among its followers to show it for what it is: a destructive cult with elements of psyops thrown in for good measure.
  • What we can and should do when people we care about have been sucked down the QAnon rabbit hole and we want to see them safely tethered back to reality.
  • And much more...

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0:00.0

Coming up on the Jordan Harbanger Show.

0:02.0

You're not going to be effective helping someone in a, in a QAnon cult by trying to be factual,

0:08.8

by trying to point out specific things.

0:11.7

If you ask them to go back in time and then you can ask them to walk slowly how they came

0:18.3

to where they are today.

0:20.0

And in that process, you're starting from a place where they're not undermined control.

0:25.4

And you're able to then ask questions and remind them that this was what video was it that

0:32.3

really captured your attention and made you take it seriously.

0:36.1

Was there a particular person in your life?

0:42.8

Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger.

0:44.8

On the Jordan Harbinger Show we decode the stories, secrets and skills, the world's most

0:48.9

fascinating people. We have in-depth conversations with people at the top of their game, astronauts

0:54.1

and entrepreneurs, spies and psychologists, even the occasional, Emmy-nominated comedian,

0:59.1

drug trafficker or neuroscientist. Each episode turns our guests wisdom into practical advice

1:04.8

that you can use to build a deeper understanding of how the world works and become a better critical

1:09.6

thinker. If you're new to the show or you're looking for a handy way to tell your friends about it,

1:13.6

we now have episodes starter packs. These are collections of your favorite episodes,

1:17.7

organized by popular topics to help new listeners get a taste of everything we do here on this show.

1:23.2

Just visit jordanharbinger.com slash start to get started or to help somebody else get started

1:29.2

with us, which of course we always appreciate. Today we're doing a little bit of a deep dive into

1:34.6

QAnon, how this bizarre cult, which is really what it is. So Q, it's hard to sort of put Q into a

1:42.2

boxy or QAnon. They claim that there are people with high-level security clearances in the

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