471. ROAD TO GILEAD: The History of Queerphobia with Abigoliah Schamaun and Dr Harry Tanner - part one

The Guilty Feminist

The Spontaneity Shop

Comedy

4.9 • 12.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2026

⏱️ 74 minutes

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The Guilty Feminist 471. The History of Queerphobia Presented by Deborah Frances-White and Abigoliah Schamaun with special guest Dr Harry Tanner Recorded 13 February 2026 at the Museum of Comedy in London. Released 23 February 2026. The Guilty Feminist theme composed by Mark Hodge. Get Deborah’s new book with 30% off using the code SIXCONVERSATIONSPOD https://store.virago.co.uk/products/six-conversations-were-scared-to-have More about Deborah Frances-White https://deborahfrances-white.com https://www.instagram.com/dfdubz https://www.virago.co.uk/titles/deborah-frances-white/six-conversations-were-scared-to-have/9780349015811 https://www.virago.co.uk/titles/deborah-frances-white/the-guilty-feminist/9780349010120 More about Abigoliah Schamaun https://www.instagram.com/abigoliah https://abigoliah.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp1GBgUIMG4 https://linktr.ee/ndm_book https://podfollow.com/all-british-comedy-explained More about Dr Harry Tanner https://www.instagram.com https://harryjamestanner.com For more information about this and other episodes… visit https://www.guiltyfeminist.com tweet us https://www.twitter.com/guiltfempod like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/guiltyfeminist check out our Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theguiltyfeminist or join our mailing list http://www.eepurl.com/bRfSPT Come to a live show Waterstone’s Book Club, 23 February. https://www.waterstones.com/events/the-guilty-feminist-x-waterstones-book-club-jess-robinson-and-max-olesker/london-piccadilly Zack Polanski and Juno Dawson at The Union Chapel, 5 March. https://www.gigantic.com/the-guilty-feminist-tickets/london-union-chapel/2026-03-05-18-30 31 March Bloomsbury Theatre. https://www.bloomsburytheatre.com/event/2026/03/guilty-feminist-live Thank you to our amazing Patreon supporters. To support the podcast yourself, go to https://www.patreon.com/guiltyfeminist You can also get an ad-free version of the podcast via Apple Podcasts. The Guilty Feminist is part of the AudioPlus Network. If you’d like to work with us, please get in touch at hello@weareaudioplus.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm a feminist, but if I found myself in a time machine with US Attorney General Pam Bondi,
0:07.0	I'd go straight to Salem 1693, jump out and say, she's a witch! Look at what she's wearing!
0:13.0	I've brought a traitors cloak to this scenario. Always wear a cloak in a time machine,
0:19.0	you just don't know when you're going to need it. Too slow, Pam Bondi.
0:22.6	Too slow.
0:23.6	I'm a feminist, but when I make social media reels where it's me and a man talking,
0:30.6	I will automatically make the man's captions blue and mine red.
0:36.6	And I have to pause and be like, pause and be like Abigail you can be blue too
0:40.4	I have to like in my head be like no no blue is a neutral color anyone can be blue I don't
0:49.5	understand that okay so you know how I make social media yeah Yeah. TikTok reels. Yeah. I'm not on TikTok anymore. Or, well, on Instagram as well. Okay. Of, say, me and Tom talking, I will make Tom's video, all his captions blue. In mine red, because I'm a girl. Why do you have to be red? Why is red for a girl? Like pink. I don't know, but in my head. Oh, like pink and blue. Yes. I see. I see. I understand it now. Okay, that was a horrible I'm a feminist butt. No, it wasn't. Because the queen of I'm a feminist butt is like, why couldn't you be? You are too progressive if you don't see red as a female color.
1:28.6	I don't. I see red and blue as political colors. Pink and blue I would get. I would get, yeah. You don't have to be pink. Yeah. I understand it now and I'm really sorry. Any hue of pink. Do you want to do it again and I'll pretend to get it? No, I want this to stay in. I want everyone to know
1:43.2	not only am I a bad feminist
1:44.6	but I don't to stay in. For the podcast? I want everyone to know not only am I a bad feminist, but I don't understand color theory.
1:47.0	I'm also a bad artist.
1:52.0	Not true, not true.
1:54.0	I'm a feminist, but if I were in a nightclub loo and Trump's press secretary, Karen
1:58.6	Levert, was drunk and crying because she'd had a fight with her husband.
2:02.2	I would say, you know, he's right, and he should leave you.
2:06.2	And then I'd point blank refuse to lend her a tampon.
2:10.8	Even if she were in white trousers,
2:13.9	I'd walk right out.
2:15.7	Oh, that is power.
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