Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Sometimes there's wisdom in knowing just when to give up.

Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, I'm your host, Catholic Answers Apologist and

Speaker, Trent Horn.

And today's Friday, which means it's free for all Friday here on the podcast.

I talk about whatever I am interested in.

During the week, Monday through Thursday, we talk about apologetics and theology.

I'll share rebuttal videos to anti-Catholic videos on YouTube.

But on Friday, I just get to cut loose and have some fun.

And I came across this article at Reason.com by Ronald Bailey, who is like their

chief science correspondent.

He's really smart guy, very aware of the scientific literature.

I don't agree with him on everything.

I know a few years back, he had a bit of a dispute between Patrick Lee, who is my

old professor at the Franciscan University of Stubanville.

I think he was the chair, he probably still is the chair.

He was back then the chair of philosophy and bioethics at Franciscan University of Stubanville.

Pat Lee is awesome.

He's a fun guy, a smart guy.

He kind of looks like Pierce Brosnan, James Bond.

He's got a, he uses a great guy, very smart, wrote his written a lot of great stuff on abortion

and philosophy.

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