From Relay FM, this is Upgrade. Episode 471. Today's show is brought to you by Squarespace,

Vitaly and Oony Pizza ovens. My name is Mike Hurley and I have the pleasure as always

to be joined by Jason Snow. Hi Jason Snow. Hi Mike Hurley, how are you?

Summer of fun. Summer of fun. Welcome back to the Summer of Fun. I'm going to start out today's

episode of a snow talk question that comes from Martin who wants to know. When you're listening

to a new album, do you shuffle for playback or listen in the order that the artist intended?

How dare you Martin. Yeah, I'm

I'm curious to buy this question. Do I shuffle? Okay, back in the air. Okay kids,

Pulp a chair while Graham Pot tells you a story. Back in the CD era, the compact disc era,

when we put little plastic discs into devices and order to listen to music before we had the

iPod. You may remember them as the thing you used to stick into your computer to rip,

mixed burn and put on an iPod. But originally back in the day, there was no iPod and you just

listened on a CD player to the music on the compact disc. In this era, there was a shuffle button.

And you know what? After you listen, and so you listen, follow me here to one's album at a time.

One album at a time. If you're very lucky, you had like a CD changer and what that meant is you

could put like five discs in and it would shuffle between them. Yep. And you could or place

straight through, but you could shuffle between them. So you could have like a song from one

disc and then the next song would be from another disc. Usually accompanied by the sound of a

mechanism. Like a delay as well between the songs. Yes. And the sound and the sound of the discs

moving around. There's like you always know you're going to get something from another album because

you hear it playing them enough. Absolutely. But if it's a five disc changer or six, just change

you don't know which one. But yes, absolutely. And there's a gap between them. Oh, those were

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