Hi, everybody. I'm Joe Lampel, the Joe behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner Show.

My guest today is Dr. Barrett Klein, an entomologist, artist, and professor of biology at the University of Wisconsin, LaCross.

He studied entomology at Cornell and the University of Arizona, earned his PhD at the University of Texas at Austin, working with honeybees, and he spent decades

exploring the intersection of science, art, and culture. His new book, The Insect Epiphany,

How Our Six-Leged Allies Shape Human Culture, is the kind of reed that makes you want

to walk outside and see your garden, and honestly, your whole world differently. From silk and honey to soil and pollination,

Barrett makes the case that insects haven't just shared our planet.

They've shaped our civilization.

I'm really glad to have Barrett on the podcast today,

and I think you will enjoy his fresh perspective

on growing in appreciation for insects and the vital role they have in this world.

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