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No Stupid Questions

47. Is Laziness Real?

No Stupid Questions

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Also: why do we dislike being alone in public? This episode originally aired on April 11, 2021.

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0:00.0

Do you have any mind tricks, please?

0:05.0

I'm Angela Duckworth.

0:06.4

I'm Stephen Dubner, and you're listening to No Stupid Questions.

0:10.5

Today on the show, is laziness a false concept?

0:14.9

Sometimes a dog really did eat your homework, okay?

0:17.8

Also, why do we feel so uncomfortable spending time alone in public places? Tickets? How many?

0:24.2

Just one, please, sir.

0:30.4

Angela, a question from a listener named Susan Kemp, at least that's the name she's using to write to us under.

0:37.9

Could be a pseudonym.

0:39.1

Might be Angela Duckworth for all we know.

0:42.0

Quote, Susan Kemp has this to ask.

0:44.4

Do you think laziness is really a thing, she writes?

0:47.6

For the last year, I've been debating if laziness is real or just some concept we created in order to, I don't know, Protestant guilt trip ourselves

0:55.6

into doing things. I like Susan. Already. Say that someone doesn't do their homework. Maybe they have

1:01.7

an undiagnosed sleep disorder or are chronically sleep deprived. And that's why they can't focus.

1:06.5

Maybe their diet is off. So they're tired. Maybe they're just tired because school starts at 730 a.m.

1:11.1

And science says that is stupid. Actually, I think science says that early school start is bad for some people, but not others.

1:17.9

There are different chronotypes, yes? Well, in general, though, adolescents tend to be later risers.

1:23.6

So the science would say that starting school for most high school students at 730 is dumb.

1:29.6

Okay.

1:29.9

So she's right on that.

1:31.2

I'm wrong on that.

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