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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

47 | Adam Rutherford on Humans, Animals, and Life in General

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll | Wondery

Society & Culture, Physics, Philosophy, Science, Ideas, Society

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2019

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

Most people in the modern world — and the vast majority of Mindscape listeners, I would imagine — agree that humans are part of the animal kingdom, and that all living animals evolved from a common ancestor. Nevertheless, there are ways in which we are unique; humans are the only animals that stress out over Game of Thrones (as far as I know). I talk with geneticist and science writer Adam Rutherford about what makes us human, and how we got that way, both biologically and culturally. One big takeaway lesson is that it’s harder to find firm distinctions than you might think; animals use language and tools and fire, and have way more inventive sex lives than we do. Adam Rutherford received his Ph.D. in genetics from University College London. He has written numerous books on genetics, evolution, synthetic biology, human history, and the origin of life. His most recent book is Humanimal: How Homo Sapiens Became Nature’s Most Paradoxical Creature — A New Evolutionary History. (Published in the UK with the more manageable title The Book of Humans: The Story of How We Became Us.) He frequently appears on and hosts science programs for the BBC on both radio and television, including Inside Science for BBC Radio 4. BBC Bio Page Articles at The Guardian Wikipedia Amazon.co.uk author page Talk on “What Makes Us Human” Twitter See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

Hello everybody, welcome to the Mindscape podcast.

0:02.3

I'm your host Sean Carroll.

0:03.9

Today we have Adam Rutherford,

0:05.7

all the way from the United Kingdom.

0:07.9

Adam is a geneticist by training,

0:10.0

but he's become also an extremely successful science communicator.

0:14.0

It seems to me sometimes like every professor of science in England

0:18.3

or the rest of the United Kingdom also has, you know,

0:21.0

a column in the Guardian, a radio show on the BBC, et cetera.

0:24.7

At least Adam does all of those things.

0:26.8

And he's also the author of a number of very interesting books.

0:29.9

He has a brand new book out, which I tease him a little bit on the program.

0:34.2

I don't love the title of the book, which is called Humanimal.

0:37.9

The idea behind the book is to relate human beings and how we are and how we behave.

0:43.5

Two other animals, right? Human beings are animals, just like everyone else.

0:47.2

We think we're special.

0:48.9

There are ways in which human beings are different from other animals.

0:52.6

For example, other animals don't have podcasts.

0:55.4

At least they don't host podcasts as far as I know.

0:57.7

Someone in the comments, I'm sure, is going to correct me on that misimpression.

1:01.6

But it turns out, maybe it shouldn't be surprising,

1:04.6

that it's actually very difficult to pinpoint what it is about human beings

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