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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

46 | Kate Darling on Our Connections with Robots

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll | Wondery

Society & Culture, Physics, Philosophy, Science, Ideas, Society

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2019

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Most of us have no trouble telling the difference between a robot and a living, feeling organism. Nevertheless, our brains often treat robots as if they were alive. We give them names, imagine that they have emotions and inner mental states, get mad at them when they do the wrong thing or feel bad for them when they seem to be in distress. Kate Darling is a research at the MIT Media Lab who specializes in social robotics, the interactions between humans and machines. We talk about why we cannot help but anthropomorphize even very non-human-appearing robots, and what that means for legal and social issues now and in the future, including robot companions and helpers in various forms. Support Mindscape on Patreon or Paypal. Kate Darling has a degree in law as well as a doctorate of sciences from ETH Zurich. She currently works at the Media Lab at MIT, where she conducts research in social robotics and serves as an advisor on intellectual property policy. She is an affiliate at the Harvard Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society and at the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies. Among her awards are the Mark T. Banner award in Intellectual Property from the American Bar Association. She is a contributing writer to Robohub and IEEE Spectrum. Web page Publications Twitter TED talk on why we have an emotional connection to robots See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to the Minescape Podcast.

0:02.8

I'm your host Sean Carroll.

0:04.3

And today we're talking about robots.

0:06.9

We've talked about robots before on Minescape.

0:09.0

It's a natural topic to imagine,

0:10.5

but usually we're talking about what kinds of robots

0:13.4

there are, what they might be doing.

0:15.8

Today we're gonna be focusing on the human side.

0:18.3

What do human beings do?

0:20.1

What should they do when they interact with robots?

0:23.3

How should we think about robots when we're dealing with them?

0:26.6

Today's guest Kate Darling is a researcher

0:28.9

at MIT's Media Lab.

0:31.0

She's not an engineer who builds robots.

0:33.0

She actually comes from a social science background.

0:35.6

She's interested in what people should do with the fact

0:39.8

that we tend to treat robots as if they are human beings.

0:43.1

We tend to anthropomorphize them.

0:45.0

We assign, attribute feelings and emotions and ideas

0:50.1

to robots even when we know that they don't have them.

0:52.6

You don't need to be looking like a human being

0:55.4

as a robot to get another human being

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