47. A tale of Two Americas: How Charlie Kirk Will be Remembered

The Tim & April Show

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🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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In today's live, Malynda Hale joins Tim to discuss the current political climate, focusing on the rise of Christian nationalism and its implications for society. They reflect on the recent incident involving Charlie Kirk, exploring the differing responses from various Christian communities, particularly in relation to race and systemic issues. Chapters 01:47 Navigating Mental Health in Turbulent Times 08:49 The Rise of Christian Nationalism 15:51 The Charlie Kirk Incident and Its Implications 31:32 Racial Dynamics in Christian Responses 40:32 The Legacy of Violence and Systemic Racism 55:19 Weird Christian Moments and Cultural Reflections ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You're listening to a new evangelicals production.
0:15.0	The Tim and April show, where we unravel faith, politics, and culture.
0:22.4	Oh man, oh man, hello everyone, and culture. Oh, man, oh man.
0:23.7	Hello, everyone.
0:24.4	Welcome into the Tim and April show.
0:26.8	You're not April of Joy.
0:28.4	I got to get rid of that.
0:29.4	No, you're not.
0:30.1	Goodbye.
0:30.6	It's God.
0:33.5	Okay.
0:34.5	Special guests today, because April is with her partner,
0:37.4	Beecher at a movie festival, because they have a movie that got chosen to be premiered there. Melinda Hale, executive director of the New Evangelicals, and I'm Tim Whitaker, the founder of the New Evangelicals. You know, it's going to be a good show today. Melinda, thank you for hopping in. It means a lot. You're not, you're not new to the
0:55.5	Tim and April audience. You've been on before. You've hung out with us before. And you run the organization that sponsors and produces the show. So it's great to have you. Yeah, thanks for having me. Where's my nameplate, Tim? I'm sorry. I was doing so many things I totally forgot. you're fine.
1:11.3	Oh man.
1:11.8	Well, friends, listen, welcome in.
1:13.1	Please make sure to give this video or this I'm sorry. I was doing so many things I totally forgot. You're fine.
1:13.0	Oh, man. Well, friends, listen, welcome in.
1:29.3	Please make sure to give this video or this stream a like. It helps to get into the YouTube algorithms because we have to play that game. If you're listening on podcast, make sure to give this show a rating and a review. It helps us out over there as well. FYI, if you're watching live, Cassidy, who usually produces behind the scenes is she's away on vacation. So I'm kind of managing the chat and pulling content and giving
1:34.9	you all commentary with Melinda. So I'll do my best to do all those things as well. But Melinda,
1:39.8	I mean, how are you doing? It's been one hell of a week. There's so much to get to, you know, so many things have happened so quickly. I don't know. You and I have talked behind the scenes a bit because we chat pretty often, but this is my first time going live on the show since everything that happened with Charlie Kirk and just the acceleration of the Trump administration. I'm just kind of curious to hear how you're hanging in there.
2:07.5	I mean, I'm not great. I'm not going to lie. It's a rough week. It's been rough for my family.
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