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Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness

468: LEVEL UP! Zach Windahl on the Unified Story of Scripture, Why "Belong Before You Believe" Fails, and How to Study Scripture When You're Bored or Confused

Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness

Christopher Cook

Mental Health, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness

4.9 • 528 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

You love Jesus, and you want to love the Bible, but most days, life crowds it out. And when you do open the text, it can feel confusing, disjointed, even offensive; so you reach for personalities who make it feel easier. The problem is that celebrity clarity often replaces biblical clarity. This week on Win Today, Zach Windahl—creator of The Bible Study and founder of The Brand Sunday—joins me to recover the unified story of Scripture and to challenge a popular church slogan: "belong before you believe." Belonging matters, but the New Testament's pattern is belief that forms a people, not a people that replaces belief. We'll name the most common study mistakes, walk a simple observation–interpretation–application path, and give you a way to read when you're bored, confused, or offended—so you meet the Lord in the words he actually inspired.

Guest Bio

Zach Windahl is the author of The Bible Study. His work has introduced hundreds of thousands to practical, repeatable study rhythms that move from information to transformation. Today isn't about his résumé; it's about putting tools in your hands so you can read what's there and be formed by it.

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0:00.0

The Art of Leadership Network.

0:03.2

A lot of the times for us today, because we don't want to offend people, we just say,

0:08.8

hey, you can keep showing up and be a part of everything that we're doing without changing.

0:13.7

And that is completely opposite of what scripture says, but we like to make people feel comfortable.

0:22.6

Helping you design your roadmap to wholeness from the inside out.

0:27.6

This is Win Today.

0:30.8

And now, here's your host, Christopher Cook.

0:35.1

Hey, you guys, welcome to the podcast.

0:36.9

I'm really glad you joined me this week. You know,

0:38.9

you can build a faith around sermons and soundbites, or you can build your life on the word

0:44.4

that formed the church and is still forming you. The difference shows up when scripture

0:49.6

cuts across your feelings, though. Do you read what's there, or do you reach for a personality just to make it easier?

0:57.2

Well, this week, we wrap up our two-part mini-series on studying scripture,

1:01.3

and my friend Zach Windall joins me to recover the Bible's unified story,

1:05.5

to challenge the slogan, buckle up, belong before you believe,

1:10.0

and to hand you a simple way to study when you feel

1:13.4

bored, confused, or even offended. We'll identify the most common study mistakes, show you how

1:19.8

observation leads to interpretation, and then to application, and invite you back into daily

1:25.2

engagement that actually grows your faith. So lean in, listen,

1:29.4

if you've wanted clarity and confidence in the scriptures and a way to carry it into your

1:34.8

ordinary life, this conversation is your on ramp. I really believe it's going to add great value

1:39.8

to your life. And my conversation with Zach Wendahl is coming up in just a moment. But first,

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