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Coming up on the Jordan Harbanger show. I said, why did you even get started this? He says,

why read a spy book in my country? And when I was eight or ten years old, he said, that's all

they wanted to do in my life was to be a spy. And he said, and I was just fine. It was very exciting.

And I said, but it's not so exciting now, is it? He said, well, the book ended a little

half had a happier ending than this chapter I'm living.

Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories,

secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people. We have in-depth conversations with people

at the top of their game, astronauts and entrepreneurs, spies and psychologists, even the occasional

neuroscientist Russian spy or Russian spy hunter in our case here today. Or an organized crime

figure, you get the idea, a lot of amazing and interesting people here on the show. Each episode

turns our guests wisdom into practical advice that you can use to build a deeper understanding of

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