Hello, Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world, where it's naturally supernatural.

My guest says, the measure of God's presence is the only thing that can penetrate the dense darkness

that has gripped the world, and even some of your loved ones, want more of God's

presence? I know I do. Next.

Sid Roth has spent over 40 years researching the strange world of the supernatural.

Join Sid for this edition of It's Supernatural.

You know, in 1997, Kim, you moved to the Phoenix area, a church that was going to be a revival church with your husband,

both you were going to pastor it. How did you even get to that point?

You know, we had been in ministry for a number of years doing youth pastorate,

work Sid and associate pastorate, and we felt God stirring something on the inside of us to

move, you know, on to more, I guess you would say, in ministry. And through a series of circumstances

and event, the founding pastors of the church that we went to in Phoenix, resigned, retired, resigned, and called my husband

and I to come and be a part of it. And it was very much a God ordained moment. We realized

that now more than we even did in that time. But God was setting us up for something very

powerful. It took us a number of years to realize the whole scope of the story.

But he really was setting us up for something.

But just that tug and that call of God to move forward in the ministry,

and that's how we got to Phoenix.

I had a very remarkable marking moment in my life spiritually.

And I had actually just read Tommy Tenney's book, God Chasers.

And it was right after that.

I was actually in the sanctuary of our church alone. And I was at the altar in a certain place.

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