So I hope that throughout this retreat we tend to make sure that our feet are on the ground and we realize that we're going to be judged like every other startup from here and out and that is by what our product is and how timely we bring it to market. not in the fact that we were sued, not in the fact that we were sued, not in the fact that we're really good people who had a lot to do

with Macintosh.

That stuff's irrelevant at this point. Hello and welcome to GASI Best 30 Plus, been out the conversation.

You're going to hear all week long.

I'm your host, Aerof andiza, join me today. He's been

huffing paint and doing whippets all day long to take the edge off the election stress.

He's the founder of Koltamak. Leander Kani is here.

Also with us, he proudly wrote in Hair Force One on his election ballot, which honestly I think might

be a bad idea because that's just a nickname, Lewis, and that won't actually get him on the real ballot so

the magic editor of Culchback. Louis Wallace is here. Just I thought we were talking no politics

man. We just for the intro.

That's not political, is it?

Ah, just kidding.

Air Force One?

There's nothing political.

Yeah.

About Hair Force One or that hair.

I might get a knock on my door if I had written that in actually. Why is that?

I don't know man people might get nervous. About Hair Force? No everyone loves Hair Force.

Uh, did you guys ever see that picture of him with long hair?

Nope. Longer hair. Well it was like, I mean it was full on actually funny enough. Was it was full on El Kaney comes to America hair. That picture that you have, I wish I had, it's somewhere

around here. I have a copy of it because I took a picture of it when I first went to your

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