Hi, everybody. I'm Joe Lampel, the Joe behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner show.

Today's guest is someone many of you already know, and if you've ever considered raising

chickens alongside your garden, there's a good chance she helped you shape how you think about it.

I'm talking about Lisa Steele, author of the best-selling book, Gardening with Chickens, which,

for many gardeners, became the go-to book, Gardening with Chickens, which, for many gardeners,

became the go-to guide for integrating chickens into a productive, sustainable garden.

But today's conversation is a little different, because now, 10 years later, Lisa is back

with a fully updated anniversary edition of that original book.

And what makes this especially interesting

is not just what's been added, but what's changed. After a decade of hands-on experience,

a move to a completely different climate, and an even deeper dive into raising poultry as part

of a garden ecosystem, Lisa brings a fresh perspective on what really works and what she's doing

differently. So today, we're revisiting this topic with the benefit of 10 more years of real-world

experience and unpacking what that means for gardeners today. So let's get started, and as we do,

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