Howdy folks, welcome back to the podcast. Today, Katie and I are going to be talking about whether

or not we should receive advice and instruction from non-Christians. And we're going to talk about

different areas of life in which we may be tempted to do this and maybe even should at different

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Okay, we will now undergo the episode.

You know what's crazy, Katie, is that I had a really negative association with

self-development books, self-help books, prior to you giving me the book,

the compound effect when we were dating the second time, like right shortly before we got

married. That's the compound effects by Darren Hardy, who's kind of a business coach,

entrepreneur, self-help kind of guru type guy. And that book was just

so helpful for the season of life that I was in. And that kind of led way to books like

atomic habits or, you know, the one thing or, I don't know, the war of art. And we could go on and on,

the rhythms of life. You could go on and on and on the rhythms of life.

You go on and on about these, we could, about the books that we've read that have been really

helpful and practical areas of our life that were written by non-Christians, right?

People that were not Christians.

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