Hi, everybody. I'm Joe Lampel, the Joe Behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner Show.

Today's guest is Kate Brown, author of Tiny Gardens Everywhere, the past, present, and future of the

self-provisioning city. Kate is an environmental historian and professor at MIT, whose work explores

the relationship between people, place, and the systems that sustain us.

In this book, she takes us back to a time when cities weren't just places of consumption,

but places of production, where everyday people grew food in backyards,

vacant lots, and shared spaces, not as a hobby, but as a necessity.

And what makes this so relevant today is what it suggests for the future,

that even the smallest spaces multiplied across communities can become powerful engines of resilience.

Today, we're talking about what we can learn from that and how it applies to gardeners right now.

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