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The SelfWork Podcast

461 SelfWork: Should AI Be Used For Therapy?

The SelfWork Podcast

Margaret Robinson Rutherford PhD

Education, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-improvement

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Today we’re going to focus on AI (Artificial Intelligence) and how it might be used as in psychology and specifically in therapy. It’s interesting to see how people are responding; some states are banning its use, either to protect the jobs of people who’ve studied and received degrees (as is happening in many professions) or to warn of mistakes that AI can make or harm it can do. There was dramatic and heart-breaking example of this happening just this week. I'd already recorded this episode but then heard about 16 year-old Adam Raine who was allegedly admitting to ChatGBT that he wanted someone to stop him from killing himself. You can hear ChatGBT's alleged answers in this episode. Our Sponsors: * Check out BetterHelp and use my code betterhelp.com for a great deal: https://www.betterhelp.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

This is Self-Work, and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford.

0:10.3

At Self-Work, we discuss psychological and emotional issues and what you can do about them,

0:15.6

whether that's learning self-acceptance, taking action, or seeking therapy or treatment.

0:22.9

Eight years ago, I extended the walls of my practice to reach those of you who might already be knowledgeable about middle

0:27.1

health treatment, but also to those of you who might say, you'd never darken the door of a therapist.

0:33.0

And yet, you are here. I'll answer your questions while I invite you to take a few minutes for your

0:39.1

own self-work. So I'll get back to my original question. Is AI going to replace the need for

0:46.8

therapists? As a therapist, it is my humanity, my mistakes, my misjudgments, my failures,

0:52.9

and what I've learned from those that lends whatever

0:55.6

help I can offer much more valuable than the therapeutic model I might be using at the time,

1:00.7

far more useful than some theory and practice.

1:04.4

Welcome to this week's edition of Self-Work.

1:08.4

Today we're going to focus on AI and how it might be used in psychology and specifically

1:12.7

in therapy. It's interesting to see how people are responding to it. Some states are banning its use,

1:19.1

either to protect the jobs of people who've studied and received degrees, as is happening in many

1:23.2

professions, or to warn of mistakes that AI can make or harm it can do. While other people are

1:29.2

warming to the idea that it could certainly help with what's called psychoeducation, where literally

1:34.0

a therapist might be teaching a skill or a technique, giving an historical context to something,

1:39.0

or educating a client on a medical issue they need to look into rather than conceiving what they're experiencing

1:45.1

as only a mental health issue. I had already recorded this episode when I read this morning

1:51.8

about the suicidal death of Adam Rain and the fact that his parents are suing OpenAI because

1:59.2

of what the chatbot actually told their suicidal son as he was

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