46. The Leak That Changed The World: Snowden On The Run (Ep 4)

The Rest Is Classified

Goalhanger

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4.6 • 732 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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The world has met Edward Snowden and now he fears repercussions. How will he escape Hong Kong? Where will he go? And will any nation be willing to risk the fury of the USA and help him? Listen as David and Gordon continue the story of Edward Snowden and the leaks that changed the world. ------------------- To sign up to The Declassified Club, go to www.therestisclassified.com or click this ⁠link⁠. To sign up to the free newsletter, go to: ⁠https://mailchi.mp/goalhanger.com/tric-free-newsletter-sign-up⁠ ------------------- Order a signed edition of David's latest book, The Seventh Floor, ⁠⁠⁠⁠via this link.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pre-order a signed edition of Gordon's latest book, The Spy in the Archive, ⁠⁠⁠⁠via this link.⁠⁠⁠⁠ ------------------- Email: [email protected] Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@triclassified⁠⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:27.6	The order, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, requires Verizon on a, quote, ongoing daily basis to give the NSA information on all telephone
1:33.2	calls in its systems, both within the U.S. and between the U.S. and other countries.
1:38.1	The document shows for the first time that under the Obama administration, the communications
1:42.4	records of millions of U.S. citizens are being
1:45.3	collected indiscriminately and in bulk, regardless of whether they are suspected of any wrongdoing.
1:51.3	The disclosure is likely to reignite longstanding debates in the U.S. over the proper extent of the government's domestic spying powers.
1:59.0	Well, welcome to the rest is classified. I'm David McCloskey.
2:02.2	And I'm Gordon Carrera. And that, for those who have been listening to our series on Edward's
2:06.6	own, is the first time, thank you, Gordon, that I have not been forced to read an opening quote
2:11.9	from Edward Snowden's memoir, permanent record. That is instead a quote from an absolute bombshell of a news story
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