46. Revisiting Utopia

Pick Me Up, I'm Scared.

Madeline Pendleton and David Roberts

Society & Culture

4.8 • 783 Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2022

⏱️ 140 minutes

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This week, Madeline and Kenna construct an ideal society, try to figure out if laws should actually be laws or just really strong suggestions, and tell you why you shouldn't trust anyone you see covered in glitter! PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/pickmeupimscared SOURCES: https://tinyurl.com/2p8maekh https://tinyurl.com/y75zwn7a https://tinyurl.com/24vutbk9 https://tinyurl.com/5n6e4pna https://tinyurl.com/s5mw5yvb https://tinyurl.com/bdh4ff94 https://tinyurl.com/4kxh4fbx https://tinyurl.com/mryz4n8s https://tinyurl.com/2bz998b6 https://tinyurl.com/ycyb8sa6 https://tinyurl.com/mehxxmrh https://tinyurl.com/387dn2pd https://tinyurl.com/4ywy9ux4 https://tinyurl.com/32jbysvd https://tinyurl.com/yvzjsjne https://tinyurl.com/4yd5pw5c https://tinyurl.com/2p8dxcp6 https://tinyurl.com/3pedx4ws https://tinyurl.com/3n7z342k https://tinyurl.com/mrv5t8jj https://tinyurl.com/9cfjzs34 https://tinyurl.com/v2wpfy8d https://tinyurl.com/4z54zxek https://tinyurl.com/yckwzxh9 https://tinyurl.com/567854e3 https://tinyurl.com/53cd2zd3 https://tinyurl.com/2p88wwd7 https://tinyurl.com/y8drts5s https://tinyurl.com/2p93v5a9 https://tinyurl.com/2f6xne2v https://tinyurl.com/ys8ks7j3 https://tinyurl.com/4m55957c https://tinyurl.com/4y3zsxsc https://tinyurl.com/39tdnmay https://tinyurl.com/y3fmcchm https://tinyurl.com/4jdx5p2e https://tinyurl.com/ykpucnre https://tinyurl.com/45ff4xkr https://tinyurl.com/4tfbvx6p https://tinyurl.com/yc77vs2f https://tinyurl.com/ye29w93c https://tinyurl.com/3cnwks5z https://tinyurl.com/2j7krx69 https://tinyurl.com/yck7myn4 https://tinyurl.com/mse5tznn https://tinyurl.com/293z7mfs https://tinyurl.com/67p59s9c https://tinyurl.com/98sz8k49 https://tinyurl.com/wccysn9r https://tinyurl.com/4su3yv25 https://tinyurl.com/37wtzkh4

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0:00.0	Welcome to Pick Me Up, I'm scared. The podcast.
0:28.2	I'm your host, Madeline. And I'm your co-host, Kenna.
0:34.8	Okay, Kenna, today I wanted to ask you, do you think Utopia's achievable?
0:37.5	Oh, yeah, I do.
0:43.2	I'm like, I'm a little bit of a, uh, uh, optimist.
0:44.7	Yeah, I could see that.
0:49.4	But also, I just think that thinking that everything is shit and is always going to be shit is not a very useful way of thinking.
0:51.8	It's not.
0:52.4	You have to have idealism at least, right? Yeah,
0:54.9	because if you're not, if you're just like there's no way anything's going to get better,
0:58.8	like you don't even fucking try. It's defeatist for sure. Yes, I agree. I mean, I feel like
1:04.9	nothing's ever going to be perfect probably, but as long as you're like learning and growing
1:09.9	for mistakes and actively trying to do
1:11.4	better and working towards something. Yeah, I'm just working for no money Star Trek universe.
1:18.0	Right, exactly. So like the idea of perfection, like utopia, that's like purity, right? But like
1:23.5	the actions we take to like work towards that, if we don't achieve it like if you're
1:28.5	in the process of pursuing it maybe that's the closest you can be in in its own way that's
1:32.5	utopia i for me personally i don't think that uh like perfection is uh what people actually
1:43.1	want like i don't think that, I think it doesn't exist.
1:48.2	Right.
1:49.3	And, like, you know, like, there is a perfect, I don't know, maybe I'm going back to, like,
1:54.6	philosophy class where it's like Socrates being like, there is a perfect tree.
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