So if you're listening to this right now,

you're either on my podcast or they're on yours.

You recorded?

Yeah.

How you doing?

I'm good.

I'm good. We're doing like a joint podcast venture.

So there is no introduction, there's just conversation.

Yeah. And we've got this on YouTube as well.

And if you're watching it on YouTube, you're either on mine or your end up doings. Yes. But that's what it's about, though, conversation, isn't it? We spoke about this in the elevator.

We were like, let's put this on both platforms because this is just general conversation

for both socials.

And I feel like a lot of people don't understand.

It's not it mattered how many people we know that are in like a bid for popularity on

their own.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's just like I don't think people realize when you bring forces together, it's so much better.

Because at the end of the day, like I've got a message, you've got a message, very similar message from different people.

And it goes to out to even more people.

Do you know what I mean?

So I just think people need to have that angle more

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