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engineered by the American voters.

This is your life now.

This is our election now. This is us. This is our country. It's real. Hi and welcome back to the 45th podcast listeners.

Rabia Jodra here and I'm here as always with my co-host and colleague Susan Simpson.

Hey Susan, how are you?

Hey Rabia.

I'm also very excited to introduce our new guest to our listeners, Michael Bernowski.

He is an associate professor of political science at Northern Kentucky University.

He's also the creator and host of the Politics Guys Podcast, which is a show founded on the belief that

liberals and conservatives can engage in rational and civil debate.

Now, you know, we actually started that that way too but we'll get back to that

as opposed to trading insults and talking points he's also the author of

navigating the news of political media users guide. Hi and welcome Michael.

Thanks I happy to be here. Thank you for coming. Media Users Guide. Hi and welcome, Michael.

Thanks, happy to be here.

Thank you for coming.

I mean, I listened to a couple of your episodes,

really good stuff.

And yeah, so when we started off with the 45th,

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