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I'm Chris Mooney.

And I'm Indravis Gantus.

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slash inquiring minds. This week, I interviewed David Casaret. He's a physician, researcher, and tenured professor

at UPenn's School of Medicine. He's published more than 100 articles and book chapters in leading

medical journals, and he's the real deal. He's just released a book called Shocked, documenting the

history and state of the art of resuscitation, essentially bringing people back from the dead.

It's a fascinating read, and it quickly calls into question the very notion of death, what it

means to be dead. And it turns out that the line between life and death is much blurrier

than we might think. Here's a clip from the interview. I notice as I talk to both researchers

and emergency room physicians and paramedics in writing this book,

that a lot of people I talked to would use these air quotes as they talk about somebody who's dead.

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