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The Guilty Feminist

459. ROAD TO GILEAD: Christian Nationalism with Felicity Ward, Minnie Rahman and Lucy Winkett

The Guilty Feminist

The Spontaneity Shop

Comedy

4.912.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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0:00.0

I'm a feminist, but I've taken to cheese grating my face three times a week.

0:05.1

Now, I've brought the grater so I can show you.

0:08.5

This is Trinny London.

0:10.8

She's smaller than I remember.

0:14.6

See this.

0:16.2

This is a, like a microplanner or something they call it.

0:19.2

But basically, it's a cheese grater on a wheel.

0:22.2

And in the evening, you have to do it at night, three times a week. Is that because it bleeds?

0:27.4

No, no. But you need to give it overnight to heal. Now, what it does, it's very good. It's very good.

0:35.1

You do it in all different directions. I can't do it now if I make up.

0:37.7

But you can see I'm demonstrating it. Left, right.

0:40.8

You're demonstrating it, I think.

0:42.7

Up and down. And then I put some serum on it. And it's very important. This serum goes on.

0:50.0

It's a serum that only Trini sells. So that's important.

0:53.6

It's the only one that works. And the serum, it is true. Once you have done this, once you've cheesgrated your face, the serum really goes in, it sinks in, because there's holes for it to sink into. The next day, it's very key. You mustn't put anything on but this serum. Don't put on any active products. Now, I didn't know what active products

1:11.2

were, but I found out by accidentally putting them on the next day. It's anything with, you know,

1:16.7

acid or any of those other things in. I hate when you put acid on your face the next day.

1:21.1

Well, everybody does now, though, because you've got all these different products that are

1:25.0

meant to activate stuff, and that felt quite hot and tingling

1:29.3

a little bit burny and I had to take it off. But what this does is another good thing is you

1:34.9

use less product because you can't use a lot of products after it. And I have noticed a distinct

1:41.4

difference in my face since I've been cheese grating it.

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