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Welcome back to another episode of more from Sam. Hey Sam, I was nice seeing you a few minutes ago

and seeing you again here. A long time I'll see. Yeah, we just did a substack live. I thought that was really good.

Yeah, yeah. It's actually kind of surprised me that live still feels like something different, right?

I mean, obviously the experience of looking at a camera and talking

is identical, but just the knowledge that it's live and that you can't take any of your words back

is somehow thrilling or gets your attention. So I like it.

We didn't give subscribers much heads up at all. We will do that in the future, but we just had

thought of it at the last minute. And anyone who would like to join us for will do that in the future, but we just had thought of it at the last minute.

And anyone who would like to join us for one of those in the future, you can become a subscriber

and join us over there. We will give you more time. And I thought it was really cool that we were

able to take some questions from the audience and do that in real time. It's a different experience

being live than recording, but we'll do more of those and we'll see where we can learn and figure out how to improve those. Yeah, it was fun. And I think we can record them. I don't know. In this case, I think it was just, if you were in the room, you were in the room, you know, which is frankly kind of nice, you know, to treat it like a live event as opposed to yet another podcast, you know, piece of content that we're just going to record and put out there. So, you know, I think we should give people a heads up so that they can, they can be there if they want to be. All right. So I woke up this morning thinking about your conversation with Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller from the bulwark, that media empire they have. And just thinking why it was so well received by your audience. And I don't even know what their positions are on most issues, but I'm sure they're more conservative than yours. They're conservatives, correct? You know, I don't even know where there's daylight between us in our views. I mean, yes, you would expect there to be differences because they're both formerly Republicans, right? So they're coming from the other side. They're both gay, so that I mean, I don't know how conservative they could be socially, but my point is it doesn't even matter. It seems like it didn't even matter anymore. There was such a sense of relief hearing you guys speak together. It's almost like we never really

cared about some of those other differences. And we've realized that now we just care about decency,

decorum, sanity, having somebody on the other side just see, at least see everything the same way

that you see things. Yeah, yeah. And also they're much closer to the political history there. I mean, they're just, obviously,

having spent all their time right of center, they see how Trump and Trumpism bent everything

into this awful shape. And they, you know, they have relationships, many more relationships

than I had. They got distorted by these changes. So, yeah, it's great to talk to them. I'm just a huge fan of both those guys. And they're just very fun. And they're so trustworthy and likable. They just feel like, you know, listening to the three of you talk, it just felt like, you know, three of my friends were getting together. And I'm certain the audience felt the same way, that there was this foam-mo. Like, I just, I wish I could have been in there with you guys. I saw a comment on YouTube and thought this was a nice note from them. It says, as a progressive, I probably don't agree on many policy issues with Sarah and Tim, but I have come to trust them to tell it straight over almost anyone else, including most of the progressive podcasters I listen to.

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