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Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

459 - Deborah Copaken (Author, Photojournalist, Badass)

Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

Chris Ryan

Society & Culture, Arts

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2021

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

What a woman! Deborah Copaken has slept in caves in Afghanistan, produced documentaries, raised three kids, and written best-selling books on the A train under the cold streets of Manhattan. She's smart, funny, tough, and honest. A perfect podcast guest, in other words.

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Intro music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range,"Go with God (Topless Shoeshine)," by Joe Henry; "Smoke Alarm," by Carsie Blanton.



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0:00.0

Radio Mano, Papa Chango.

0:02.3

©洲 cliff,

0:02.8

Hello world, hello Chris, this is Maitre coming to you from Rainy Hamburg.

0:32.7

I've been listening to you since the last past seven years or so, so you were in my ear.

0:40.2

Why I was picking eggplants in Australia or on a train ride in Southeast Asia.

0:47.4

So you've rode along with me or I did with you, depends on the perspective, I guess, for

0:54.3

a long time and within some pretty formative periods of my life.

0:59.1

So I just want to thank you Chris, not only for entertainment but for enlightenment.

1:05.1

So now I'm listening to your latest Roma instead of writing my bachelor thesis, but somehow

1:09.9

you touched on something idea within my paper which is about moral development in children.

1:17.7

And I stumbled upon and thought a lot about the word ambiguity tolerance, which translated

1:23.2

to English is the ambiguity tolerance, which I think we are probably lacking here and

1:29.7

there because the world isn't just black or white, it's a freaking rainbow, right?

1:36.1

Well, in any case, thanks a lot Chris, keep on rocking in the free world.

1:41.8

Hi Chris, this is Maggie in Soslito, California.

1:45.5

I just got back from my morning kayak outing where I had finished listening to your

1:49.9

interview with Dr. Eleanor Yinega.

1:54.3

In spirit of the podcast, I decided to listen to older by George Michael for the first

2:00.1

time.

2:01.1

And suddenly the album came out during the year of my birth, so I'll let you do that math.

2:06.6

As it turns out, the seals out here are huge fans of George Michael.

2:11.8

Usually you'll see one or two in the morning if you're lucky.

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