Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment.

Today's guest is the New York Times's Carlos Zada.

He's going to see his new book. It's called The Washington Book.

And it's all about the writing and reviewing he did at the Washington Post where he was their book critic.

We've got 2013 to 23, a bunch of his best reviews on topics to help us understand how Washington works

through the lens of books and the authors who write them.

I think we were particularly instinct during this conversation because in many ways,

this podcast is all about understanding how politics in DC work through the lens of conversation

but also the books that we're discussing with the figures we're interviewing with and about

so hope you all enjoy this conversation once again you all know at the core of the

podcast is the idea that there's just so much knowledge out there that we can all

get access to by reading so I hope this encourages you to not only pick up

Carlos's book but explore topics that are of your mind and your interest as well too.

Huge thank you to the Foundation for American Innovation, for support of its podcast, hope you all enjoy the conversation.

Carlos Lazzato, welcome to the realignment.

Thank you so much for having me.

We were just chatting before the start of this conversation,

and I just wanted to say I'm so pumped for this because this podcast,

we really moved books here here because I think the

listenership is engaged with the idea that books aren't just like this obvious

way you should spend your time learning etc.

etc there's something unique about like the reading format

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