From RelayFM, this is Upgrade. Episode 457. Today's show is brought to you by Squarespace

and FitBud. My name is Mike Hurley. I'm joined. But Jason's now. Hi, Jason's now.

I'm Mike Hurley. How are you?

Yeah, I'm a little underweather. You could probably hear it.

Yes, I got that going on today. I've got the like low voice. We'll see if I still have

a voice by the end of the episode. Okay.

50 50 odds. Oh, if you lose your voice during this episode, I think you will have been proven

wrong about deciding to soldier on and do this episode, right?

I just think if I have to get Stephen Hacker to tag in at the midway point, then I made

a mistake. Then yeah, we'll find out. Happy bank holiday to you and to you. I have a

snail talk question that comes from John. And John says, we know that Jason uses an

embamug, but what is his preferred temperature for tea?

Oh, preferred temperature. This gets us into dangerous case list territory, because I have

to explain my preferred temperature to tea in Fahrenheit and then translate it into

Celsius. No, you get the same Fahrenheit. If people really want to know, they can do

the calculation. No, no, no, I'm full service. I'm full service about this stuff. 160 degrees

Fahrenheit. Would you have any guesses about how much that is? You can see 2000. 2000 degrees

Celsius. 2000 Kelvin. Yeah, that's exactly it. I like it. I like it to melt the cup.

That's like 80 70 70. Okay. 70 C 160 degrees Fahrenheit. That's what I like it. I did not know.

It's funny. Okay. So John asked this. I, you know, I am not one of those people who

was like, Oh, what is the ideal temperature for my tea? I shall find out. And then many

years ago, I was like, it's too hot. It's too hot. Oh, it's too hot. Oh, now it's just

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